A Satellaview research blog.

Note to self: Use more search engines. (Yahoo Search finds)

For a while, I’ve been using Google for my Satellaview searching. I’ve attempted to use other search engines previously, but had sour luck with them.

But then Chronomoogle told me over at #snesfreaks that he found some interesting things searching on Yahoo Japan for Satellaview stuff.
He’s been trying to see if he can track any ROMs that aren’t on the GoodSNES, TOSEC or No-Intro sets, or on my or Callis’s blog.
So far? He’s found a SRAM file – that’s not from us. Interesting!
That’s probably more luck finding something than I’ll ever have on a search engine!

So, seeing what I can find now, yes?

… oh, interesting!
I never figured out how to navigate Pixiv on my own, but apparently thanks to Yahoo.jp I’ve found out That it has a Satellaview tag with art on it.

Most the art so far appears to be based on BS Zelda or Radical Dreamers. As can be expected from a massive art site, the styles and quality are varied.

And I don’t know what that iPod is doing there, either.

On this page is a long piece of audio (A podcast?) where the two participants talk about the Satellaview about mid-way in. Loads of game titles are mentioned, as well as the various radio personalities. I’m taking a good, careful listen to the pronunciations, especially considering he “Kodai vs. Inishie” wars that may continue to spread for the long-term!

I also got a note that this Twitter account exists. Seems like a pretty cool guy, huh? Hrrm.

No signs of ROMs or the elusive “BS F-Zero Grand Prix 2 Dai-2-wa” or “R no Shosai” series video clips yet. If I find more interesting sites, though, I’ll be sure to link them. Ones that are especially significant or continuously updated may even be added to the links on the bottom-right of the page.

Well, speak of the Shirikon Chounaikai!

So, merely a day after this post is the upload date of a NicoNicoDouga upload;


Yeah, so I posted about a week later. I tend to like taking a bit of time on pad out my postings. ^^;

I’m gonna assume once again that folks at NND are posting things in response to the blog again. Which is always a good thing.
I really appreciate this stuff. 🙂
I owe a lot to the Satellaview fans that browse and upload to NicoNicoDouga; without them, this blog may not have come to exist.
I hope that, sometime (particularly after I learn some Japanese better), I’ll be able to give back to them in a more direct manner.
For now, though, hopefully this simple message will work:

Bakusho Mondai no Shirikon Chounaikai is a radio program, it’s format being pretty similar to the various other ones I’ve obtained so far.
シリコン町内会 translates to “Silicon Neighborhood Association”, and the show seems to cover various Nintendo news and games.
The title of the NND up suggests that no one is certain exactly when this particular episode broadcasted. It’s tentatively marked on the June 1996 date because… well, about mid-way in, a Nintendo 64 radio ad is prominently featured. It’s kinda eerie to think about, actually… that ad may have marked a moment when the Satellaview’s days were numbered.

BTW, the audio doesn’t quite match up with what the ROM shows. There’s likely more episodes yet to be heard.

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Comparing the Satellaview to the current-gen; My fears about DRM.

So, lately I’ve been disturbed by how the next generation of gaming is turning out.
Well, there’s this.

The very fact that this happened again doesn’t hold well for me either.

And, while I can’t find a source-link, the Sonic Retro thread where this was all being discussed in mentioned that Nintendo was considering a “pay to continue playing” style of DRM itself.
(EDIT: Ok, so they were referring to post five on the PS3hax.net thread? I’ll need a better source than that…)

Most people are disturbed by this because it hurts legitimate customers, who may now be expected to pay money to play games they already own.

I think there’s another reason to be concerned about this, though; one that’s more painful to the customers as well as the developers. DRM is damaging to a game system’s legacy… and I feel the Satellaview makes for a very good example.
I made this post there. Here’s a copy of the text for those who can’t log in/register to see.

“You know, much of the reason I look up the Satellaview is because I’m disturbed by how DRM basically damaged the add-on’s legacy.

I mean, a significant number of the available games for it are no longer playable because of the software-based restrictions the system had. Now, the motive for this was a bit different, because in the Satellaview’s case, any downloads after the initial set-up and subscription were [at least as far as I know,] free (much like Sega Channel, although the Satellaview had a more expensive setup.), so Nintendo (Rather than doing the smart thing and simply not allowing saving to private-owned memory, lulz) put the restrictions on them so they wouldn’t fear losing profits from retail carts – the results were games that locked up after a preset number of boot-ups (in the case of the Soundlink games, the DRM, which enforced playing on a specific schedule, prevented the game from booting up after the initial downloat/”stream”.)

What games were affected by this? We don’t know – new ROM dumps show up now and then with things that have -not even been documented on the internet prior-. Many of these are from packs where the DRM was activated. Thankfullly, a lot of emulators ignore the DRM (but -not- BSNES. True hardware accuracy has it’s catches!), although the possibility of poor/glitchy emulation is still high as a kite.
The vast majority of Satellaview games fell into an obscurity worse than “failure” systems like the Virtual Boy or true “limited releases” like Nintendo World Championships, because of a combination of factors – not limited to, but certainly including, the DRM – that led to a – lack of knowledge about the system, [and] a ridiculous amount of difficulty just trying to play the software again[.]
The disturbing thing about this? We’re not talking about things that would’ve gone into obscurity anyway; we’re talking about Mario games, Zelda games, Squaresoft games that AREN’T boring JRPGS, and interesting first-and-third-party titles that would’ve at -least- been cult hits if they were released on any other platform.

Now, think about this in the context of the current generation.
Imagine if that Zelda Tech Demo for WiiU ran off the DRM idea Nintendo [allegedly] proposed recently. Now, even if the game is initially a success, there will become a point where no one will want to support the pay model anymore. What will happen, then?
Yet another Zelda game – of all things – will fall into obscurity. No, I don’t mean that people will consider it a black sheep like Adventures of Link. I mean people will -forget what the game is like-. This happened to the BS Zelda games, and it took -years- (going from the initial BS Zelda broadcast to NND upload dates, 12 years,) for some folks at NicoNicoDouga to encode their old, slightly decayed, likely-EP VHS tapes and remind the world how that game played once before.
Do we really want the memories of the video games we play restricted to old, manual recordings? I shouldn’t need a DVD+R to remind myself how Super Mario Galaxy 3 was like 30 years from now.”

Sega fans, BTW, are probably already familiar with The Sega Channel, which was a service that many directly compare to the Satellaview due to their similarities. Among those similarities, of course, them having faded to obscurity due to a lack of content archival for years. I’ve still been seeking out documentation on the Japanese side of the Sega Channel to this date.

(EDIT: Since I’ve tracked down the source of the claims about Nintendo I’m questioning it’s legitimacy. The article has been edited accordingly.)

Bakusho Mondai’s own “After School King”… and something else?

So, before getting into the meat of the article, I’ll note that I’ve attempted to change the “cake” icon on the address bar of the page to something more appropriate. Hope it works well!


Anyway! A bit ago, NicoNicoDouga, you know how this typically goes, right? Based on what I could get out from the audio clips, this is essentially the “complete” episode of the radio show where they talked about Tactics Ogre a lot.

“After School King” went through a lot of different hosts. I wonder why that is?
I still haven’t gotten any archives of the “Shirikon Chounaikai” show that the 2nd ROM down here is based off of.

NicoNico.com link

There was also another radio program uploaded under the “Satellaview” search, but I don’t think it’s related to the Satellaview specifically… it’s dated 2005. Well, I only have myself to blame for not being able to read Japanese enough. If anyone can help me figure this little tidbit out, that’d be nice. Regardless of it’s relevance, it’s got the “St.GIGA” branding, so it should be useful regardless. The title Google-Translates out as “Analog Waves”.

NicoNico.com link

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