How much would you pay for BS-X Shooting?

So, a while back I was linked to Solaris Japan, an import store, basically. Nice places, folks. Import video games can be fun, take it from someone who has a PC-FX, and a Satellaview. 😛

Ah, yes. First thing I ran a search on? Satellaview stuff.

The results? “Boy, this is really expensive.”

Well, Radical Dreamers and Treasure Conflix, being from Square’s line of games, tend to go for that price anyhow, sometimes on an unlucky-for-me-bid-day even higher on YJA. I’m not so sure about the F-Zero 2 one, though…

The big thing to see here, though, is the entry for BS-X Shooting.

Check it out. 49,800 yen. Same as the Square games.

Now, here’s the thing. Is it a fair price to ask?… I don’t know!
You see, this is the very first time I’ve ever seen this game listed as for sale.

Yes, the ROM dump was released here.
To pad a bit more to the story behind it, though, ChronoMoogle was supplied it’s 8M Pack without any prior knowledge of what it’s contents were – and was pleasantly surprised when he first booted it up. His BS-X Shooting is the first one I’ve known to still be in existence (Since it’d be hard to say if the old video recording of the game came from someone who had the cart or not.).

He might be even more surprised now if he’s reading this. SolarisJapan has stated BS-X Shooting’s value to be equal to the rarest and most demanded of Satellaview 8M Pack software. If someone actually forks over that money, then it’ll set the precedent, and he’ll kinda have a small fortune in his hands.

Question is… well, would anyone buy it? It may be one of the rarest games, but with the ROM dump in circulation (and fairly easy to emulate) it doesn’t have the air of exclusivity that I’d suppose Radical Dreamers and Treasure Conflix have…
I guess only time will tell, though…

SolarisJapan’s “Contact” section says you can request them to search for something if they don’t have it shown on the site. I’m wondering whether I should ask if they have anything shown in the Undumped Satellaview list…

EDIT: Updating. I figured after I wrote this I’d contact SolarisJapan with their reasoning. I got a pretty interesting answer.

The price for BSX shooting derived from the price Japanese stores would pay if you sold it to them. They pay about the same amount as for RD or TC, even though I have never seen it in any store before.
I doubt anyone is going to buy any of the higher priced titles anyways, but figured it would be a nice thing to have them listed in the shop as a rarity. 😉

So, this pretty much confirms that at least someone -will- pay that much for BS-X Shooting, at least if they’re the owner of said Japanese stores.


  1. PYPYBM1 said,

    February 25, 2012 at 4:29 am

    Amazed at the price of Solaris Japan Inc.!!161&parid=5E7DD66074C78A20!160&authkey=!ANNsuC_FcIjdclA

  2. J-Dilla said,

    August 22, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    With the rom dumps already available, the only way to establish the cart woth every penny is to check by hands.
    Open it up and see if there “something” strange in it.

    I mean, nowdays is very simple to write that kind of chips the Bs-X store in.
    Desoldering the empty one replacing it with the new burned chip et voilà.

    Eventually some desoldering/soldering marks could be the key to valuate if the cart has been tempered.

  3. Kiddo said,

    August 22, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    While I understand your concern, I’d suggest you get a bit more technical knowledge specific to the Satellaview.

    There should be absolutely no soldering/desoldering invovled in writing over 8M Packs. Anyone who actually tries this is probably just breaking stuff.

  4. J-Dilla said,

    August 22, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    Errr… yes, the easiest way could be let the satella do the work (and i was searching something about this, when i bought some of my carts for the first time).
    In my research there was just a guy’s blog who had the satella strangely hooked up with some protoboard, stuff like that… i can’t really say if he has achieved anything, but i guess eventually it will be doable if you knowwhat you’re doing.

    What i was trying to figuring out; would be possibile to swap the chip on the mem pack (which is in the non branded ones) a rewritable memory, with a chip toasted with an eprom burner?
    I mean, it’s full of conversion/proto guide out there (see Starfox2 on real machine or all the translations). It involves swap datas using an existing donor cart. It’s not rocket science. Thus desoldering this chip on the bs-x cart is not really easy but you only have to get the right instruments, and for 500 bucks you’ll get them right away.

    unrelated: are you with the same nick on assembler?

  5. J-Dilla said,

    August 22, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    What i’m wondering is if this chip:
    can be pull out and replaced with a new burned one with the game you want to fake (es. Radical Dreamers)
    There are conversion for Snes which use small chips like that one and not the classic windowed eproms… so burning those things is certainly doable i guess

    You’re right, i’m not an expert when it comes to technical stuff so i may be (maybe for sure) wrong…but when it’s about high dollars items, i’m going to be very skeptical (see Neogeo AF3/PsII scandal)

  6. Kiddo said,

    August 22, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    You’d probably be better off asking Ikari at snesfreaks than myself, but I’ll say this much.

    Regardless of whether whatever you’re asking is theoretically possible or not, it’d be easier to just rewrite the 8M Pack’s Flash ROM through a mix of hardware/software that doesn’t involve replacing chips on the 8M itself.

    The only use I could think of for what you’re thinking of would be to possibly make Satellaview homebrew that would go pass the normal 8M restriction – an idea I admit would probably be neat, but not really the subject of this discussion.

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